Mabel Earlene “Madea” Simmons may be a beloved character penned and portrayed by Tyler Perry, but there are plenty people who have criticized the persona. For decades Perry donned that famous purple dress to become the loud-mouthed, Aunt Madea who smokes cigarettes, shoots guns, and takes no mess, but there were plenty detractors, including his fellow actors, who believed he emasculated himself for a bit fame. Perry recently was a guest on ‘s Expeditiously Podcast and addressed his naysayers who knock his billion-dollar brand.

T.I. mentioned that Perry’s success has come with “some” level criticism. “Some?” Perry added with a laugh. “You being polite.” T.I. asked the media mogul to address critics, including Dave Chappelle, who said it’s easier for a black man in Hollywood to become successful if they put on a dress. “Listen, Chappelle is one the most brilliant people I have ever seen in my life,” Perry said. ” A heavy, brilliant thinker. So, if that’s the case in Hollywood, then, okay, that’s the case. But you gotta understand, that’s not my case.”

“Nobody owned that dress but me,” Perry continued. “. Nobody told me to put it on. Nobody makes me put it on. On stage, black man owned the whole show. It was my choice. So, when I got to Hollywood and wanted to do Diary a Mad Black Woman, it was my choice. Nineteen movies since then, it’s been my choice.”

Recently, . “I’m not a man who enjoys wearing a dress,” he told T.I. “For me, an actor, it’s a costume. It like if somebody goes to work at Walmart they put on their uniform. For me, that’ s putting on a uniform, going out and making people laugh. Lifting them up. Encouraging them. The good that it does for so many people.”